NBA Props with OLG Retail

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bangminton
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NBA Props with OLG Retail

Post by bangminton » Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:56 pm

Is anyone still playing NBA Props with OLG Retail? If so, how do you handle the (near) real-time updates that OLG is doing to the NBA Props Cards, on a daily basis?

I notice they are updating the odds right up until tip-off and many times they simply leave the cards grayed out, especially when a star player is announced to not play.

Is there a *sweet spot* like 30 minutes before tip-off that you typically get your tickets in?

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Re: NBA Props with OLG Retail

Post by richhhh » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:36 pm

I am not sure how viable line comparison from Pinnacle is anymore Bang as Proline seems to be pretty attached to market. I have not played or payed much attention however but when I do it tends to look like below. I said this before and never did anything with it but I would think Steals and Blocks is where to look. No pinnacle line with them just recreational books posting. Gotta be a leak there to beat market.

Scottie Barnes TOR total points 1.87 19.5 1.87 1.961 19.5 1.781 -15.90% 2.90% Kris Murray POR total points 1.76 7.5 1.91 1.9 7.5 1.833 -18.10% 2.12% DeMar DeRozan CHI total points 1.67 22.5 2.05 1.775 22.5 1.97 -16.08% 1.98% Jarrett Allen cle total points 1.87 17.5 1.87 2.19 18.5 1.632 -14.54% 1.54% Myles Turner IND total points 1.94 17.5 1.72 2.1 17.5 1.684 -18.90% 0.10% Herbert Jones #N/A total points 1.72 11.5 1.94 1.84 11.5 1.9 -16.72% 0.06% Cade Cunningham DET total points 1.94 22.5 1.72 2.1 22.5 1.689 -18.56% -0.20% Tyrese Haliburton IND total points 1.87 18.5 1.80 1.99 18.5 1.769 -16.60% -0.28% Andrew Nembhard IND total points 1.87 9.5 1.80 1.98 9.5 1.769 -16.60% -0.28% Tre Mann OKC total assists 1.55 3.5 2.25 1.662 3.5 2.13 -12.94% -1.38% Zion Williamson NOP total points 1.80 24.5 1.87 1.877 24.5 1.862 -14.74% -1.58% Pascal Siakam ind total points 1.87 21.5 1.80 1.961 21.5 1.793 -15.21% -1.62% Jonas Valanciunas NOP total points 1.94 10.5 1.72 2.06 10.5 1.714 -16.92% -1.66% Marvin Bagley was total points 1.87 13.5 1.87 1.869 13.5 1.869 -11.05% -1.95% Jaden Ivey DET total points 1.87 14.5 1.80 1.943 14.5 1.8 -14.81% -2.00% Nick Richards CHA total rebounds 1.76 8.5 1.91 1.917 8.5 1.826 -14.14% -2.18% Jakob Poeltl TOR total points 1.70 11.5 2.00 1.746 11.5 2.01 -12.89% -2.49% Malik Beasley MIL total points 1.91 12.5 1.76 1.98 12.5 1.769 -14.81% -2.50% Scottie Barnes TOR total rebounds 1.91 8.5 1.76 2.09 8.5 1.689 -14.63% -2.66% Jayson Tatum BOS total points 1.87 26.5 1.80 1.925 26.5 1.813 -14.08% -2.70% Tyrese Maxey PHI total points 1.87 27.5 1.80 1.925 27.5 1.813 -14.08% -2.70% PJ Washington #N/A total points 1.76 10.5 1.91 1.819 10.5 1.925 -13.60% -2.76% Grant Williams cha total points 1.76 9.5 1.91 1.813 9.5 1.925 -13.60% -2.76% Jarrett Allen cle total rebounds 1.76 10.5 1.91 1.9 10.5 1.833 -13.58% -2.79% Isaiah Stewart #N/A total rebounds 2.00 6.5 1.70 1.917 6.5 1.813 -2.79% -12.63% Evan Mobley CLE total points 1.91 16.5 1.76 1.97 16.5 1.775 -14.45% -2.83% Paul George LAC total points 1.8 19.5 1.87 1.847 19.5 1.892 -13.23% -3.14% Santi Aldama MEM total points 1.80 13.5 1.87 1.847 13.5 1.892 -13.23% -3.14% Paul Reed phi total rebounds 1.80 8.5 1.87 1.934 8.5 1.806 -13.08% -3.30% Zion Williamson NOP total assists 2.05 5.5 1.65 2.26 5.5 1.598 -15.09% -3.34% Jaden McDaniels MIN total points 1.91 9.5 1.76 1.961 9.5 1.787 -13.75% -3.48% Immanuel Quickley tor total points 1.91 20.5 1.76 1.961 20.5 1.787 -13.75% -3.48% Kristaps Porzingis BOS total points 1.91 21.5 1.76 1.961 21.5 1.787 -13.75% -3.48% Derrick White BOS total points 1.91 14.5 1.76 1.961 14.5 1.787 -13.75% -3.48% Tyus Jones WAS total points 1.87 10.5 1.87 1.833 10.5 1.9 -9.45% -3.55% Deni Avdija WAS total points 1.76 13.5 1.91 1.8 13.5 1.943 -12.77% -3.66% Kyle Kuzma WAS total points 1.76 19.5 1.91 1.8 19.5 1.943 -12.77% -3.66% Kris Murray POR total rebounds 1.87 5.5 1.87 1.925 5.5 1.813 -9.30% -3.70% Anthony Edwards MIN total points 1.94 29.5 1.72 2 29.5 1.751 -14.58% -3.74% Draymond Green gsw total points 1.87 8.5 1.80 1.909 8.5 1.833 -12.98% -3.76% Jaylen Brown BOS total points 1.91 22.5 1.76 1.952 22.5 1.793 -13.39% -3.80% Coby White CHI total points 1.67 19.5 2.05 1.694 19.5 2.09 -11.31% -3.88% Donovan Mitchell CLE total assists 1.76 5.5 1.91 1.714 5.5 2.06 -3.93% -13.26% Ivica Zubac LAC total points 1.94 12.5 1.72 1.99 12.5 1.757 -14.21% -4.06% Rudy Gobert MIN total points 1.76 13.5 1.91 1.793 13.5 1.952 -12.36% -4.11% Anfernee Simons POR total points 1.76 24.5 1.91 1.793 24.5 1.952 -12.36% -4.11% Mike Conley MIN total points 1.87 10.5 1.80 1.9 10.5 1.84 -12.60% -4.13% Donovan Mitchell CLE total points 1.87 26.5 1.80 1.9 26.5 1.84 -12.60% -4.13% Tre Mann OKC total points 1.91 12.5 1.76 1.943 12.5 1.8 -12.99% -4.18% Toumani Camara POR total rebounds 2.05 6.5 1.67 2.18 6.5 1.628 -12.36% -4.40% Ayo Dosunmu CHI total points 1.80 13.5 1.87 1.819 13.5 1.917 -12.02% -4.40% De'Aaron Fox SAC total assists 1.80 5.5 1.87 1.909 5.5 1.826 -12.00% -4.42% Derrick White BOS total assists 1.87 4.5 1.87 1.826 4.5 1.909 -4.42% -8.58% Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL total points 1.91 29.5 1.76 1.934 29.5 1.806 -12.64% -4.50% Toumani Camara POR total points 1.76 8.5 1.91 1.787 8.5 1.961 -11.96% -4.55% Ayo Dosunmu CHI total assists 2.05 4.5 1.65 2.21 4.5 1.613 -13.51% -4.62% Jrue Holiday BOS total points 1.94 12.5 1.72 1.98 12.5 1.769 -13.47% -4.71% Gary Trent jr #N/A total points 1.80 12.5 1.87 1.819 12.5 1.925 -11.64% -4.80% Jonathan Kuminga GSW total points 1.87 19.5 1.80 1.884 19.5 1.854 -11.85% -4.85% Luka Doncic DAL total points 1.87 32.5 1.80 1.892 32.5 1.854 -11.85% -4.85% Paul Reed phi total points 1.70 8.5 2.00 1.719 8.5 2.06 -10.87% -4.85% Moses Moody GSW total points 1.72 9.5 1.94 1.751 9.5 2 -12.28% -4.94% Karl-Anthony Towns MIN total rebounds 1.67 7.5 2.05 1.645 7.5 2.17 -5.01% -11.61% Isaiah Stewart #N/A total points 1.94 10.5 1.72 1.74 9.5 2.02 -13.02% -5.12% Anfernee Simons POR total assists 1.70 5.5 2.00 1.68 5.5 2.12 -5.16% -11.58% Pascal Siakam ind total rebounds 1.87 6.5 1.87 1.9 6.5 1.847 -7.82% -5.18% Tobias Harris PHI total points 1.80 17.5 1.87 1.704 17.5 2.07 -5.22% -11.47% Ziaire Williams MEM total points 1.80 15.5 1.87 1.813 15.5 1.934 -11.21% -5.24% CJ McCollum NOP total assists 1.67 3.5 2.05 1.735 3.5 2.02 -10.16% -5.28% Nikola Vucevic CHI total points 1.94 20.5 1.72 1.961 20.5 1.781 -12.75% -5.36% De'Aaron Fox SAC total points 1.72 24.5 1.94 1.751 24.5 2.01 -11.86% -5.41% Jalen Duren DET total points 1.76 13.5 1.91 1.775 13.5 1.98 -11.11% -5.46% Brandon Miller CHA total points 1.76 18.5 1.91 1.775 18.5 1.98 -11.11% -5.46% Jayson Tatum BOS total rebounds 1.70 8.5 2.00 1.769 8.5 1.98 -10.22% -5.63% Tyrese Maxey PHI total assists 2.05 6.5 1.65 2.18 6.5 1.632 -12.24% -5.64% Brandon Ingram NOP total assists 1.70 5.5 2.00 1.684 5.5 2.1 -5.66% -10.99% RJ Barrett tor total rebounds 2.20 6.5 1.57 2.18 6.5 1.632 -5.81% -10.22% Miles Bridges cha total rebounds 1.91 7.5 1.76 2.01 7.5 1.746 -11.21% -5.81% Jaden Ivey DET total assists 1.65 3.5 2.05 1.636 3.5 2.17 -5.92% -11.88% Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL total rebounds 1.87 11.5 1.87 1.884 11.5 1.862 -7.05% -5.95% Ziaire Williams MEM total rebounds 2.05 5.5 1.67 2.14 5.5 1.662 -10.39% -6.00% Tobias Harris PHI total assists 2.20 3.5 1.57 2.32 3.5 1.555 -11.72% -6.00% Nick Richards CHA total points 1.87 10.5 1.80 1.862 10.5 1.877 -10.63% -6.02% Jerami Grant POR total points 1.87 23.5 1.87 1.775 23.5 1.97 -6.03% -6.97% Scottie Barnes TOR total assists 1.91 7.5 1.76 2.01 7.5 1.757 -10.91% -6.09% Immanuel Quickley tor total assists 2.00 5.5 1.70 2.09 5.5 1.694 -10.47% -6.10% Deni Avdija WAS total assists 2.05 3.5 1.67 2.13 3.5 1.662 -10.15% -6.19% Anthony Edwards MIN total rebounds 1.91 5.5 1.76 2 5.5 1.757 -10.68% -6.31% Buddy Hield phi total points 1.70 13.5 2.00 1.632 13.5 2.18 -6.42% -10.09% Kyrie Irving DAL total assists 1.94 4.5 1.72 1.934 4.5 1.8 -6.48% -10.91% Tyus Jones WAS total assists 1.67 8.5 2.05 1.719 8.5 2.05 -9.17% -6.50% Cade Cunningham DET total assists 2.05 7.5 1.67 2.05 7.5 1.719 -6.50% -9.17% Kyle Kuzma WAS total assists 1.57 2.5 2.2 1.564 2.5 2.3 -6.55% -10.95% Damian Lillard MIL total assists 1.87 6.5 1.80 1.943 6.5 1.8 -10.07% -6.56% RJ Barrett tor total assists 1.61 3.5 2.15 1.606 3.5 2.22 -6.58% -9.75% Brandon Ingram NOP total points 1.87 22.5 1.80 1.68 21.5 2.11 -10.04% -6.59% Coby White CHI total assists 2.05 6.5 1.67 2.12 6.5 1.671 -9.64% -6.61% Tyrese Haliburton IND total assists 1.67 10.5 2.05 1.671 10.5 2.12 -6.61% -9.64% Jerami Grant POR total assists 1.70 3.5 2.00 1.751 3.5 2 -9.36% -6.64% Luka Doncic DAL total assists 1.70 8.5 2.00 1.751 8.5 2 -9.36% -6.64% Jalen Duren DET total rebounds 1.67 10.5 2.05 1.675 10.5 2.12 -6.71% -9.52% Jaylen Brown BOS total rebounds 1.67 5.5 2.05 1.675 5.5 2.11 -6.90% -9.28% Miles Bridges cha total points 1.76 19.5 1.91 1.704 19.5 2.08 -6.92% -10.01% Karl-Anthony Towns MIN total points 1.80 22.5 1.87 1.775 22.5 1.97 -9.54% -6.97% CJ McCollum NOP total points 1.80 17.5 1.87 1.781 17.5 1.97 -9.54% -6.97% Kyrie Irving DAL total points 1.80 24.5 1.87 1.781 24.5 1.97 -9.54% -6.97% Jonas Valanciunas NOP total rebounds 1.76 7.5 1.91 1.769 7.5 1.98 -7.05% -9.87% Santi Aldama MEM total rebounds 2.00 6.5 1.70 2.06 6.5 1.709 -9.31% -7.08% Mike Conley MIN total assists 2.15 6.5 1.61 2.16 6.5 1.641 -7.18% -8.51% Zion Williamson NOP total rebounds 1.67 5.5 2.05 1.68 5.5 2.1 -7.22% -8.89% Ausar Thompson DET total rebounds 2.05 6.5 1.67 2.1 6.5 1.68 -8.89% -7.22% Draymond Green gsw total rebounds 1.87 7.5 1.80 1.884 7.5 1.854 -7.25% -9.28% Nikola Vucevic CHI total rebounds 1.94 10.5 1.72 2.03 10.5 1.735 -10.60% -7.26% Anthony Edwards MIN total assists 2.15 5.5 1.61 2.2 5.5 1.621 -8.79% -7.30% Jayson Tatum BOS total assists 1.67 5.5 2.05 1.684 5.5 2.1 -7.32% -8.77% Jrue Holiday BOS total assists 2.15 5.5 1.61 2.2 5.5 1.625 -8.66% -7.40% Jonathan Kuminga GSW total rebounds 2.15 6.5 1.61 2.17 6.5 1.641 -7.42% -8.33% Damian Lillard MIL total points 1.80 22.5 1.87 1.775 22.5 1.98 -9.09% -7.44% RJ Barrett tor total points 1.80 20.5 1.87 1.769 20.5 1.98 -9.09% -7.44% Evan Mobley CLE total rebounds 1.80 9.5 1.87 1.819 9.5 1.925 -7.45% -9.15% Rudy Gobert MIN total rebounds 1.94 13.5 1.72 2.02 13.5 1.735 -10.36% -7.47% Buddy Hield phi total assists 1.72 3.5 1.94 1.787 3.5 1.961 -10.01% -7.50% Miles Bridges cha total assists 1.91 3.5 1.76 1.97 3.5 1.781 -9.31% -7.57% Jakob Poeltl TOR total rebounds 2.05 9.5 1.65 2.07 9.5 1.699 -7.59% -9.38% Luka Doncic DAL total rebounds 1.94 8.5 1.72 2.02 8.5 1.74 -10.22% -7.60% Cody Martin #N/A total assists 2.20 4.5 1.57 2.22 4.5 1.606 -7.65% -8.90% Tobias Harris PHI total rebounds 1.94 6.5 1.72 1.961 6.5 1.781 -7.67% -9.86% Al Horford BOS total rebounds 1.70 5.5 2.00 1.719 5.5 2.04 -7.74% -8.54% Kristaps Porzingis BOS total rebounds 2.00 7.5 1.70 2.04 7.5 1.719 -8.54% -7.74% Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL total assists 2.15 6.5 1.61 2.18 6.5 1.628 -8.08% -7.83% DeMar DeRozan CHI total assists 1.67 4.5 2.05 1.699 4.5 2.08 -8.08% -7.83% PJ Washington #N/A total rebounds 1.70 4.5 2.00 1.724 4.5 2.04 -7.86% -8.40% Pascal Siakam ind total assists 1.72 3.5 1.94 1.781 3.5 1.97 -9.67% -7.89% Paul George LAC total assists 1.76 3.5 1.91 1.787 3.5 1.961 -7.91% -8.93% Jaylen Brown BOS total assists 1.94 3.5 1.72 1.97 3.5 1.775 -8.05% -9.52% Draymond Green gsw total assists 1.87 6.5 1.80 1.909 6.5 1.833 -8.40% -8.17% Brook Lopez MIL total points 1.80 11.5 1.87 1.757 11.5 2 -8.20% -8.37% Myles Turner IND total rebounds 1.94 7.5 1.72 2 7.5 1.751 -9.44% -8.29%

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Re: NBA Props with OLG Retail

Post by bangminton » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:04 pm

I agree with your assessment about Props, rich. The Unabated guys, who run in the same circle as Matty, don't think any particular books should be considered *sharp* for Props, including Pinny.

https://unabated.com/articles/the-bigge ... ayer-props

They are advocating for the use of projections and/or modeling. I know some other lads like red and Buff are using projections from different sites, to varying degrees of success.

I still only play with OLG Retail so I maybe handcuffed in that aspect because you want to have as many outs as possible and do line shopping for the best value.

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Re: NBA Props with OLG Retail

Post by pacer » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:09 am

Good morning Gents! I have been grinding some decent days but to be honest if it wasn't for the loyalty points on my Avion card and Petro Points I would like say the heck with it!! I likely use the same site as a few here and try to select the best props projections. Oh the good ole days :( . Have a great day lads!!

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Re: NBA Props with OLG Retail

Post by bangminton » Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:09 am

Times are definitely a changin', pacer!

I regularly communicate with about 20+ former PLP posters, Mallers and even TMBers on X (formerly Twitter) and I would have to say majority of them is no longer playing with OLG.

Some continues to play Props with other online books, others are venturing into other forms of betting e.g. Same Game Parlays (SGPs), Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS), boosts/superboosts while others seem to have simply hang up their cleats altogether. Unsure of the Return on Invesment (ROI) but the impression I got is it seems to be on the low(er) side, compared to the good ol' days.

I will continue to soldier on with OLG Retail for several reasons (no limit, quasi-anynomity, ProLine/Petro/credit card points) and more importantly I don't feel like I constantly have to look at the screens to find and place bets with other books.

It is what it is. I think we are all still learning to find our comfortable footing in this new, competitive environment. Cheers and may the winners continue to be yours!

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